Becky Swansburg · 23 May 2025 · 4 minutes

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Top 3 Take-Aways from NAIFA’s Congressional Conference

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Hundreds of advisors took to Capitol Hill this week as part of NAIFA’s annual Congressional Conference. 

As a former Capitol Hill staffer myself, I’m always deeply moved by the number of advisors who take time away from their practices to participate in this event. Traveling to Capitol Hill to meet with Members of Congress and advocate for the needs of our industry and U.S. savers is an essential part of what makes our democracy thrive and our people succeed. 

If you haven’t checked out the important work NAIFA is doing in our nation’s capital on our behalf, you can learn more here

Neil Wilding and I were fortunate to speak at the conference. We discussed several risks we foresee coming from Washington, including rising taxes, increases in income-based fees like IRMAA, and potential legislative changes affecting IRAs.  And, of course, we also shared some strategies for advisors like you to help clients navigate and overcome these risks.

I want to highlight a couple of big issues Neil and I discussed at the conference… and you’re in luck!  Even if you weren’t able to attend in Washington this week, you can still learn about these pressing risks. I’ve linked to some recent posts we’ve written on these hot topics: 


1 | What’s Happening with the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) 

As we were traveling to Washington on Sunday, the House was meeting in a rare weekend session to pass their “Big, Beautiful” tax bill to the floor. This bill passed the full House earlier this week. The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (aka, the Trump Tax Cuts) is set to expire at the end of December, so Republican leadership in the House and Senate are hard at work to get an extension across the finish line this year. You can find an overview of what’s at stake here


2 | Why IRMAA May Be the Most Important Educational Topic of 2025

IRMAA Fact Sheet Graphic  (1)The IRMAA surcharge some savers experience on their Medicare Parts B and D premiums is troubling for two reasons: First, many savers don’t know it exists and aren’t prepared to address it. Second, IRMAA fees are likely to rise in the years ahead and be applied to a larger swath of the U.S. public – meaning even if your client isn’t impacted today, they could be in the future. Here’s an overview of IRMAA, and here’s a primer on why IRMAA fees are certainly going up (spoiler alert: the government has already told us they will).


3 | What Makes 2025 the Year of the Roth Conversion

As savers increasingly look to mitigate tax risk in retirement, Roth conversions are growing in popularity (up 40% year over year in 2024 alone). But Roth conversions aren’t as simple or straightforward as many savers (and advisors) think. 

Roth Done Right Stonewood Financial Report and Computer Graphic-1There are three key areas that need to be analyzed to optimize a client’s Roth approach: taxes, IRMAA, and conversion pattern. Here’s an overview of each. (Of course, I’m going to plug Stonewood’s new Roth Done Right software. It’s a powerful Roth optimization tool analyzing all three key areas. You can check it out here and request a sample analysis for one of your clients.)

Neil also shared some of the top Roth conversion myths and how to dispel them for your clients. Even if you weren’t at NAIFA, you can read all about these myths here

Feeling a little FOMO about missing all that learning at the NAIFA Congressional Conference? We’ve got you covered. 

Virtual Innovate Top 3 IconStonewood is hosting our Virtual Innovate conference next month, where we’ll be covering all of these topics and more. To participate, you can register here and get ready to learn from the comfort of your home or office. (And as a special thank you to our loyal blog readers, we are waiving the registration fee. Simply select “Referral – Stonewood” when you check out to gain FREE access!)

One of the strongest reassurances we can provide our clients this year is confidence that their retirement is protected – regardless of what happens in Washington. 

And it’s our responsibility – along with great national organizations like NAIFA – to make this a reality.

Becky Swansburg
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Becky Swansburg | CEO, Stonewood Financial

Becky helps your clients outsmart Washington and take control of their retirement. Making the complex simple and meaningful? It’s all in a day's work.

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